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UPDATE: DA's Office Investigating Romney Sandwich Bribe Complaint

The Democratic Party of Wisconsin said Tuesday it has filed a election bribery complaint with state election officials and the district attorney after GOP presidential frontrunner Mitt Romney and U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan handed out free Cousins Subs.

Update 4:30 p.m. Wednesday with comment from district attorney

The Waukesha County District Attorney’s office has launched an investigation into allegations that GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney and Congressman Paul Ryan traded sub sandwiches for votes in Waukesha on Election Day.

"We now have the complaint and, yes, we have commenced the investigation," District Attorney Brad Schimel told Patch in an email Wednesday.

Schimel, who is out of the office until April 16 added: "I hope that a resolution can wait until I am back, but I am in regular communication with the investigator."

The Democratic Party of Wisconsin filed the complaint in Waukesha Wednesday morning.

Detective David Witkowski of the Waukesha County Sheriff’s Department, who is assigned to the district attorney’s office, said he is investigating the complaint. Witkowski was at the Cousins Subs in question Wednesday morning and is waiting for a few phone calls to be returned.

“I don’t have a lot of information at this point,” Witkowski said.

Party Chairman Mike Tate said at a press conference Tuesday that Democrats have filed a complaint with the Government Accountability Board, the state agency that oversees elections in Wisconsin, and with the district attorney's office.

shows Romney and Ryan handing out the sub sandwiches. Additionally, a video edited by the state Democratic Party shows Romney leading a rally and telling supporters to go vote, and “If you want another sandwich, there are more back there.”

State law prohibits offering something valued at more than $1 in exchange for a vote.

Tate said it’s a clear-cut case of election bribery.

“We have pretty clear video evidence of Mitt Romney and Congressman Ryan handing out free sandwiches, and at the same time encouraging people to go cast a ballot,” Tate said. “It’s very clearly against Wisconsin election law.”

Reid Magney, a spokesman for the GAB, told Patch that his agency had received the complaint, but would not be investigating the incident because it is a criminal matter. It will be up to the district attorney to decide what action — if any — should be taken.

Even though the GAB is not investigating the incident, Magney said the agency routinely tells campaigns not to give away anything of value to voters.

"We advise candidates and businesses not to provide food, beverages or any other inducement to thank people for voting or to get them to vote," Magney said.

It doesn't matter whether a candidate gives away something as part of a general "get out the vote" effort, or if a candidate is trying to entice someone to vote a certain way, he added.

"We believe voters should vote because they care about the candidate or the process," Magney said. "Not because they got a free sandwich or a free beer."

However, Romney told WISN12 news the allegations are ridiculous and it’s a laughable stunt by the Democrats to distract from President Obama’s policies that have resulted in “record job losses and skyrocketing gas prices.”

Tate is calling for an investigation by election officials and criminal sanctions to be imposed.

The incident brought back memories of the infamous "smokes for votes" allegations in the 2000 presidential election, in which Democrats were accused of giving homeless people cigarettes if they cast ballots for presidential candidate Al Gore.

"Republicans like Scott Walker were vocal about the so-called 'cigs-for-sigs' situation in 2000, and 'Kringle-gate' in 2002, not to mention repeated calls for the rule of law to be applied to the fullest extent in the almost nonexistent instances of voter fraud," said Graeme Zielinski, spokesman for the Democratic Party. "Here is a case that's much, much stronger-the candidates themselves are participating in the bribery.

"The statute is clear. So were the actions of Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan," he added. "I don't think a prosecutor, regardless of his party affiliation, has any choice but to act and apply the laws of the State of Wisconsin."

Bruce April 5, 2012 at 02:41 am
This is just SO typical of the Republican attitude towards laws and restrictions in general: "If you're wealthy enough, nothing applies to you." Is this a big deal? Just a submarine sandwich? Yes, it IS a big deal-- because the law forbids the provision of ANY item valued at more than a dollar! Period. It doesn't say "except for submarine sandwiches"-- it says ANY item. As soon as you make ANY exception, the slow creep begins. Well, can we give "fries" away, too? How about a milkshake? How about a $5 bill? $50? $500?
A bribe is a bribe is a bribe. Romney (and RYan, too) BOTH need to have their noses rubbed in this, but good! If the election commission fails to do so, then we might just as well fold up the whole tent of the "American experiment" with democracy, because it will have failed-- completely!
James R Hoffa April 5, 2012 at 02:52 am
@Tom Connors -
Here's the official statutory section that Romney/Ryan are accused of violating: 12.11 Election bribery. (1) In this section, “anything of value” includes any amount of money, or any object which has utility independent of any political message it contains and the value of which exceeds $1. The prohibitions of this section apply to the distribution of material printed at public expense and available for free distribution if such materials are accompanied by a political message. (1m) Any person who does any of the following violates this chapter: (a) Offers, gives, lends or promises to give or lend, or endeavors to procure, anything of value, or any office or employment or any privilege or immunity to, or for, any elector, or to or for any other person, in order to induce any elector to: 1. Go to or refrain from going to the polls. 2. Vote or refrain from voting. 3. Vote or refrain from voting for or against a particular person. 4. Vote or refrain from voting for or against a particular referendum; or on account of any elector having done any of the above. As you can see, the law states that a mere inducement to get an elector to go to the polls and/or vote (without mention of who to vote for or against) is a violation under 12.11(1m)(a)(1) and/or (2).
Randy1949 April 5, 2012 at 02:52 am
@Craig -- A promo for Cousin's Subs? A free sub ( on election day, no less) with Mr. Personality Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan the Boy Wonder to draw you in? And this benefits Cousin's how, exactly?
JOHN D HANEY, III April 5, 2012 at 02:53 am
WHAT A WASTE OF TIME COMPLAINING ABOUT FREE SUBS...... AND A FREE SUB DOES NOT GUARANTEE A VOTE, BUT IT DOES GUARANTEE A FREE LUNCH...... I'LL TAKE ONE AND I HAVEN'T VOTED IN YEARS... YES I KNOW I AM SCREAMIN BUT I LIKE CAPITOLS EVEN WHEN THEY ARE NOT ON THE HILL..!!
Mike R April 5, 2012 at 03:19 am
All of you must think everyone cares who they vote for, guess what, some people don't care, give me a sandwich and hell I vote for you. People who don't think there vote count, don't care who they vote for. Some people may think he's a nice guy giving out sandwiches to the poor, I'll vote for him. Not everyone follows these people as close as you people do.
Judith April 5, 2012 at 03:37 am
If the Democrats really think that someone is going to vote for a candidate just because that candidate gave him or her a sub six months before the election, they are idiots.
April R April 5, 2012 at 04:05 am
Well well, will you look at that! Just another way for the media to control what we hear and think of politicians. Who ever thinks that this event was in anyway a form of persuasion is just using every little bit of stupid leverage to make people think negatively about Romney if they weren't already. But how much crap or flub-ups of Obama does the media post? Not a lot of course.So who is controlling what you think now?
James R Hoffa April 5, 2012 at 04:08 am
However, 12.02 states that "[i]n this chapter, criminal intent shall be construed in accordance with s. 939.23," setting an extremely high mens rea bar to prosecution. In other words, the DA would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that in fact Romney/Ryan were intending to break the law at the time they engaged in such activity. One of the few instances where ignorance of the law could work as a valid legal defense, which would explain Ryan's public statement claiming ignorance in this situation.
The Milwaukee County DA has taken it one step further in an opinion letter issued on the earlier 'BBQ for Votes' incident that occurred during last year's senatorial recalls, stating that there must be conclusive evidence linking the act of giving the thing of value to the elector and the elector actually voting (a causation element). Personally, I think that the Milwaukee County DA was stretching here to suit a desired outcome/result against prosecution in that incident. Under such a standard, Romney/Ryan obviously did nothing wrong, as there is no direct causation between the act of giving and the act of voting. But one doesn't really need to make such a stretch of the statutory language due to the high bar set by the required showing of mens rea (criminal intent) to conclude against prosecution in this case.
James R Hoffa April 5, 2012 at 04:09 am
It still doesn't look good, especially since all of us right-wingers were screaming about the 'BBQ for Votes,' 'Cigs for Sigs,' and 'Smokes for Votes' scandals of the liberals/Democrats electoral past in this state. I just would have preferred that our side stay away from such strategies, irregardless of their murky legal validity.
I hope this helps!
John Abrams April 5, 2012 at 04:10 am
OMFG The pizza place in Madison gave out Pizza for MONTHS to get people to "protest" to (go pro-union)--- OMFG a bribe as well . . . so, DA, investigate THAT, also, that went on for like a YEAR . . . not just a day, a YEAR .
INVESTIGATE CONSPIRACY N O W .
Russell Palmer April 5, 2012 at 04:49 am
This is to Bren:
I am sorry for your people. However, explain to me where it is fair for people who do not have an income, or a very low income, to be FORCED to pay for insurance, or be fined $1,000.00 Until they buy it? Ask the Canadians about National Health Care of any kind. Why do you thing they would rather come here to get treatment and pay for it themselves? First of all, the health care people and places here are charging way too much for their nonsense. An aspirin when I was in the hospital was $0.50.. Now it probably has doubled or tripled. Insurance people get rich by selling it, so what do you think is going to happen when we are FORCED to buy it? The price goes UP. It happened with Auto Insurance rates. America has never been legal to FORCE anyone to buy anything. This is supposed to be a free land, and we are now running on a Dictatorial base. That is Communism.
Cindy April 5, 2012 at 04:50 am
Thank you for reporting the truth about what is going on in Obama life, Lets see what specialty does Obama claim? Knowledge of the law? Knowledge about business? Knowledge of how to get the most out of life from the USA? Open up your eyes and vote Romney 2012!
Barb Bo April 5, 2012 at 05:09 am
at least these voters are ALIVE....Obomba had votes from DEAD people...now how different is that??? LOL
Tim April 5, 2012 at 05:25 am
Democrats worried about Republicans handing out FREE subs and telling them to go vote and the only people on the ballots are Republican right now! This is so funny, it just goes to show how worried the Democrats are about NOBAMA losing this election and being sent packing!!!
Nancy Hall April 5, 2012 at 05:26 am
How do you know people wouldn't take the sandwich or the cigarettes or whatever and vote for the other guy just to be contrary? There's no way to know how a person voted unless you'e that person.
viperkat April 5, 2012 at 07:37 am
I see no proof, no connection,it was free subs and a chance or opportunity to shake hands w/a candidate you may or may not vote for. I can't see this going in the Dem's favor (looking at it from a bystanders point of view)..but hey,like Obama said..."the supreme court should know their place"...so I guess the dems just make up and enforce law only when it suits them. You know what this looks like to me...kinda like the dems getting scared that Mit might actually win against Obama..so they're "hunting him down like a rabid dog" - quote I got off tv from a recent gal "assuming the facts and making ridiculous accusations based on those assumptions of an over-media-analyzed situation" fits this comment perfectly :) like my mom always said, you know what happens when you assume things? You make an A$$ outta YOU and ME! Anyhow on to the Dems, are you hearing a catchy song right now as you read this?.."Obama selfff...don't wanna be Obama seellff..." LOL...caughtcha lookin scared..now you're running around plugging up the courts with frivolous BS about free subs handed out by Mit. What's the difference between a free sub, free bumper sticker, free pen, or hat that they give out all the time? Come on people hear the word FREE faster then people hear the word HELP, or FIRE and come running by the hundreds! FREE?Did someone say FREE? I don't have to WORK for anything, or PAY for anything? FREE? Let me at it!! HANDOUTS all the way! Dem's novel concept ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL GENIUS! NOT!
Patrick Rodgers April 5, 2012 at 08:05 am
Just goes to show that there is no truth in the old saying that there is no such thing as a free lunch?
Bill Livingston April 5, 2012 at 09:10 am
Who cares if it is illegal or not? The important thing is I missed out on a free sandwich because I live in the wrong state! All I got was a pitiful "I Voted" sticker which contains close to zero calories. Now with a sub sandwich, I could subsist for one or two more days!
Amy April 5, 2012 at 03:51 pm
I swore I heard them say that the subs were compliments of Cousins. So is Cousins the guilty party here?
Randy1949 April 5, 2012 at 03:58 pm
Yes, for doing this to promote certain candidates on election day. And the candidates bear some blame for taking part without checking the law.
Randy1949 April 5, 2012 at 04:02 pm
In that case, the GOP needs to stop making such a big hairy deal about packs of cigarettes and barbecue. And maybe they need to change the law.
Craig April 5, 2012 at 05:15 pm
Uh, Randy...It is free advertising on all the news channels. Cousins customers didn't mind the long lines for a free lunch and it makes up for their extra time.
I call it good business.
Randy1949 April 5, 2012 at 05:27 pm
@Craig -- Maybe. We'll see if the DA thinks it fits the criteria of the election law or not. Ironically, people kept reporting it as 'Subway'.
Personally, I'd just as soon not eat anywhere where Paul Ryan has touched the food.
Craig April 5, 2012 at 05:46 pm
I would rather see Ryan run alone on a ticket, and not be second fiddle to Romney.
Cousins has ran promo's like this in the past, they just didn't have candidates doing the serving. Regardless of what the DA decides, I doubt there will be anything to come of it.
Randy1949 April 5, 2012 at 06:05 pm
@Craig -- What sort of free sub promos has Cousin's run before this? On what occasion? And don't you see how the presence of one candidate at the promo changes things?
The most that will happen is a minimal fine, is my prediction. And people learning not to do it again.
Craig April 6, 2012 at 01:23 am
Randy: Guess it doesn't matter. Sandwiches were provided by the GOP after all.
Damn, imagine that; a freebie from the GOP. This Country is screwed up!
Bucky April 8, 2012 at 01:58 pm
Tom don't blame Santa because you didn't get a brain.
John Smith September 23, 2012 at 01:52 am
So, both candidates who charge 40k-50k a plate for a fundraiser is legal?
Russell Palmer September 23, 2012 at 03:02 am
Well, I think to try to say they were bribing voters with sandwiches, is a little benign. They told them to eat up and go vote. They did not specify they had to vote for them for the sandwiches. They would have given Obama one, if he had the guts to come see. It is all just a smoke screen to try to get people against the, What about the Unions with the DemonicRATs? They fund Obama and the others with Mob money. It has been proven the Mob is who runs the Unions.
Also, no one will see Mitt and the Republicans voting to have the Muslim Brotherhood Terrorists come to America, to help Obama run the country. Time to have an American in office again.
Russell Palmer September 23, 2012 at 03:05 am
I think it is childish to make a claim like this as for bribery. How about the 40 and 50 thousand dollar plates the DemonicRATs get? Sandwiches was good Samaritan. They would have given Obama one, had he had guts enough to show up.

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