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Village Board Candidates Face Tough Questions in Men's Club Forum

Village Board candidates faced tough questions Wednesday night about business, parking and an error by Shorewood's assessor at an election forum. School Board candidate David Cobb, essentially running unopposed, also spoke.

Tough questions about tough issues: In a nutshell, that is what candidates for Shorewood Village and School Board faced at an election forum Wednesday hosted by the Shorewood Men’s Club.

Newcomer Avner Zarmi is challenging incumbents Jeff Hanewall and Thad Nation for two seats on the Village Board.  In the School Board election, David Cobb will essentially run unopposed — challenger David Gess has dropped out of the race, though his name will still be on the April 3 ballot — for the one open seat. School Board President Dec. 22.

The forum allowed for an introduction and closing statement from each candidate, but mostly consisted of questions from audience members.

Cobb gave a brief introduction — since he doesn't have a challenger — and said he hopes to bring transparency and financial responsibility to the district while continuing to help attract the best educators available.

He added that the biggest decision he'll make once he is likely elected to the board is being part of the process of selecting a new superintendent.

"That sets the tone, as any executive does, for how an organization operates," he said.

Trustee candidates introduce themselves

Hanewall, who has served on the board for six years, opened Wednesday's forum by touting the Village Board’s work in overhauling Shorewood's sewer system following severe street flooding and basement backups from a July 2010 storm.

 “For many years, prior to the flooding, we had already stepped up efforts to identify problem areas and we have added additional resources and maintenance of the sewer infrastructure,’ Hanewall said. “…We had already engaged with engineers, but once the flooding came we realized he really hadn’t pictured this in a large enough scope.”

Hanewall also referenced the consolidation of services among North Shore communities, including the recent , as a board accomplishment from his tenure.

He also boasted about the hand he has had in recent developments sprouting up on North Oakland Avenue as a member of the Community Development Authority, .

“Those are very important to us, because they stand to increase our tax base,” he said.

Nation has only been on the board eight months, but said working in government for eight years — including services as a top aide to three different governors — taught him the ins and outs of government.

 “In this time when we are seeing tremendous change coming from Madison, and tremendous change coming from the federal government, can I be of use in terms of my knowledge base, in terms of helping Shorewood deal with these changes," he said.

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Zarmi said he moved to Shorewood 15 years ago. He spoke Wednesday of home values, and that despite the quality of life in the village, those values are not always increasing.

He said he spoke with a woman whose home was assessed at $280,000, but was told her home likely wouldn't sell for more than $220,000. She wasn't able to find a buyer and with her family on a fixed income and husband battling medical issues, they are struggling financially, while at the same time, property taxes keep spiraling upward.

“It’s a story that is not unique; it’s a story I’ve heard repeated over and over again,” he said.

His point was that it’s difficult to bring young new families in the village when older families and empty nesters aren’t able to sell their homes.

Zarmi said he has been in the contract business for years, and with the village doing business with different contractors for different goods and services, his knowledge would be a real asset Shorewood.

Subject: Business Loans

How are officials deciding which businesses should receive loans or grants? Candidates were asked, in particular, why was a loan given to a bookstore, Open Book on North Oakland Avenue, that has apparently gone unpaid while the business has closed.

Zarmi responded by saying the government shouldn’t be in the business of picking winners and losers and there needs to be an level playing ground for all longstanding and new shops in the business district.

“If the Village Board is really good at picking winners and losers, I think we should send a delegation of those people to Las Vegas and perhaps improve the bottom line of the village and relieve taxes,” Zarmi joked.

Hanewall said when a community creates a special taxing district, its purpose is to invest in business.

“By default, when you create the TID, you are forced into decisions that are picking winners and losers if you want to look at it that way,” he said. 

He added all the loans and grants are fully vetted and weighed and the community came to the board asking for help for the store.

Nation said he is all for using tools like a tax district when they are available to bridge a gap and they are amenities that the community wants.

“When looking at them on a case-by-case basis, you need to make sure they make sense, there’s a good financial plan, there’s a good business plan, and that they get fully vetted, but the community has decided to put those tools in place,” Nation said.

Subject: Assessment error

One of the most heated topics of discussion centered around which valued Shorewood’s Tax Incremental District No. 1 at $77 million instead of $77,000.  A resident asked who is responsible for oversight of village staff and when a huge mistake like an assessment error is made, who should be held responsible.

Nation responded by saying the Village Board is ultimately responsible for mistakes that affect residents, and that the current board is threatening ligation if all fees incurred by Shorewood aren’t reimbursed.

“We will make this right,” he said.

, when signed by Gov. Scott Walker, prevented property tax bills from increasing in the course of making up for the error.

Nation said his experience in government and politics was vital when reaching out to Darling, and he was able to guide village staff through the process.

Zarmi said the error should have been caught in the first place; such a mistake should have been obvious to those working on assessing the tax district.

Hanewall said it isn’t about the mistake itself, but about how those guilty of committing it handle it after it’s made.

He added Shorewood won’t pay for the error and the assessor will be held responsible.

Subject: Parking

In the dual urban-suburb community of Shorewood, parking has always been a hot issue. Candidates were asked the reason behind the prohibition of night parking in Shorewood, and how they would address the problem.

All the candidates said they couldn’t answer the question of why night parking isn’t allowed and said it’s a very complicated issue.

Nation said he knows there are practical reasons for the policy, including having the roads clear to allow street sweepers and snow plows to do their job.

Hanewall said the board recently dove into the issue after fielding complaints from residents about University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee students and staff clogging the streets and limiting daytime parking in the southeast portion of the village.

“It’s probably the most difficult problem we have; far more difficult than sewers,” Hanewall said.

Zarmi said parking is a matter that should be reviewed.

“I would certainly be in favor of changing the policy, if it needs to be changed,” Zarmi said.

Vision for the village

Shorewood Police Chief David Banaszynski asked the candidates what innovations they would like to see the village undertake.

Zarmi said a Milwaukee Magazine article last year labeled Shorewood as one of the worst communities in the Milwaukee metro area. His innovation would be a marketing plan to show the village in a positive light and talk about what Shorewood has to offer to prospective young families.

Hanewall said the village needs to focus on what officials have on the table right now, but also echoed Zarmi’s comments, saying the village has created a program tasked with doing just that: talking up the village and shooting down the misconception that property taxes are spiraling out of control.

“We are starting to toot our own horn, and it’s beginning to pay off,” Hanewall said.

Nation said he would like to see the village and school district work more closely together and look for ways they can share services.

“If we can work together, figure out where we can share more of our services, where we can cut down on overlapping and duplication, I think it’s an area we can save money and make our services more efficient,” he said.

Absolutelyfabulous March 23, 2012 at 02:57 PM
Hanewell needs to go bye, bye. Nation will just play the semantics game, not step on any toes, forge those business ties and position himself to become the next Village President. From the Journal Sentinel March 19, 2010 "Update at 1:43 p.m.: Keith Schmitz of Open Book says the loan from Shorewood will be repaid in full. I'll have a full story in Saturday's paper." http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/business/88566137.html Oh BTW, what about the $200,000 or so that you GAVE the owners of Harley's clothing to remodel their new store and cover their rent in their new space for how many months? Are they self supporting yet? Oh and the $7,400,000 loan approved for Mandel's development does not include the extra $1,000,000 that was approved after the fact to add another level to the parking structure being built and then the $200,000 GRANT that was given to Sendiks after all was said and done in addition to a $150,000 low interest loan. Oh wait..what about the approximately $150,000 that was GRANTED/given to North Star Bistro so they could move across the street. It's easy when you're playing with everyone else's money.
Absolutelyfabulous March 23, 2012 at 03:40 PM
Ooops, forgot about this one.. What's going on w/ the Roundy's/Pick N Save re-development? The village has approved/reccomended a 10,300,000 TIF be created on Oakland for "future developments" Pick N Save is the only thing on the table. How did they come to that figure? How much in additional monies will also be a part of this deal in the form of grants? Have all decisions about this development already been initially agreed upon and the residents shut out once again only to find out after renderings of the project were published in the paper after the fact? That's how it worked w/ Mandel's development and then the price tag kept going up & up & up and signed off on.
David Tatarowicz March 23, 2012 at 06:33 PM
@ Absolutely Fabulous --- Have to agree totally with you on this one. Hanewall is just another "yes" person on the Board who just goes along and has not put any worthwhile or noteworthy initiatives to his credit. I am astounded that Nation wants to take credit for getting Alberta Darling to help with the assessment issue ----- if he called her office I wonder if anyone there paid special interest to it in addition to the tremendous pressure she was getting from the resident voters --- it was a no brainer for her for sure. As for the money that the Village is dumping on business loans and grants -- Mr Zarmi was right when he said "If the Village Board is really good at picking winners and losers, I think we should send a delegation of those people to Las Vegas and perhaps improve the bottom line of the village and relieve taxes,” Zarmi joked. I for one will do a bullet vote for Zarmi --- it's time we had a real thinker on the Board.
CowDung March 23, 2012 at 06:40 PM
I think that Thad Nation needs to grow a beard...
Absolutelyfabulous March 23, 2012 at 11:20 PM
Dave- I think that because you & I both think Hanewell should go bye, bye means he'll get re-elected. BTW- Avner Zarmi you need to start pounding the pavement and get some more signs on residents lawns. Just saturate the village or hit up Lake Dr and the other most visible/heavily travelled streets.
Bewildered March 23, 2012 at 11:42 PM
Since you brought it up, the question is did the Open Book $35,000 loan from Shorewood ever get paid back. Perhaps you can answer since Mr.Schmitz continually refuses to say if he ever repaid the loan.
Absolutelyfabulous March 23, 2012 at 11:52 PM
I didn't bring it up. Here it is from the article. "Subject: Business Loans How are officials deciding which businesses should receive loans or grants? Candidates were asked, in particular, why was a loan given to a bookstore, Open Book on North Oakland Avenue, that has apparently gone unpaid while the business has closed."
Bewildered March 24, 2012 at 12:12 AM
Thx for reply. That's our boy Keith !
Absolutelyfabulous March 24, 2012 at 02:39 AM
Mr. Zarmi- You stated in the above article- "Zarmi said a Milwaukee Magazine article last year labeled Shorewood as one of the worst communities in the Milwaukee metro area. His innovation would be a marketing plan to show the village in a positive light and talk about what Shorewood has to offer to prospective young families" From ShorewoodNow.com Jan.11, 2011 Shorewood BID Announces New Marketing Team http://www.shorewoodnow.com/userstoriessubmitted/114712859.html This contract between the Village of Shorewood and P.K. Wheeler Communications was signed last year for a 1 year contract. Has that contract expired? Is this company still promoting all things Shorewood? Are there any results to show for their 1 years worth of efforts? How much was paid to this firm? I'm a little surprised by your statement of implementing a marketing strategy for Shorewood unless it is different from what is currently being done, whatever that may be. How would you do things differently to achieve results?
Rolando Peabody March 24, 2012 at 03:10 AM
If only we could get the "think tank" of Cowdung, Absolutely Fabulous, Bob McDride and The Donny Show on the Shorewood Village Board. Then we would have some intellectual heavyweights to guide us into the future. They seem to have a lot of time on their hands.
Bob McBride March 24, 2012 at 03:25 PM
Thanks for the shout-out Ronaldo (eh - close enough, right?) but I'm a resident of WFB. However, your very own Keith Schmitz, self-proclaimed "Aggressive Progressive", might be a good candidate. He's right up there in the rankings in terms of having a lot of time on his hands if you're going by what you see here.
Absolutelyfabulous March 24, 2012 at 04:56 PM
Thanks for the support Rolando. Time is a very valuable commodity, though these posts only take a couple of minutes in between whatever. Kind of like a commercial break from whatever may be occurring at the time. Though, I think you should throw Bewildered in the mix as well. A little infighting would definitely add to the group. Though, after that TOUGH Q & A session w/ candidates which most likely was a wasted hour or 2 of everyones time, there seemed to be questions that were never asked/answered. I get a kick out of this response by Hanewell w/ regard to the TID, selecting who gets what and Open Book. "“By default, when you create the TID, you are forced into decisions that are picking winners and losers if you want to look at it that way,” he said. He added all the loans and grants are fully vetted and weighed and the community came to the board asking for help for the store." What actual vetting of Open Book occurred since they opened and presented themselves to the public as a co-op and were publicly vilified when it became appearant that they never were. Also, how "smart" was this idea of a 2nd hand bookstore when the original one before that was a full service bookstore that realized they couldn't compete w/ Amazon and shut it's doors. Open Book failed miserably after what, 5-7 months and never even got off the ground properly. It was a colossal disaster. Now, THAT was a well thought out & vetted plan/use of monies.
Bewildered March 25, 2012 at 02:48 AM
So Fab, you wanta play. Then two questions: 1) since you live in Bayside, why all the pretending you are a Shorewood resident? 2) with the lions' flower beds starting to come up, isn't it time for your midnite raids to destroy them l
Absolutelyfabulous March 25, 2012 at 12:29 PM
Now Bewildered- Just because a person may not live in a certain municipality doesn't mean they do not have a vested interest other than just sheer good will. Now, you previously stated that there is some sort of TAPE that shows me, AbFab, raiding/pulling out flowers in the flower beds at the intersection of Lake Dr. & Fairy Chasm (I believe that's it). Please post that tape on YouTube so everyone can see me in action and then after 9 months of no follow-up by the police or no one cited/arrested for the incident/s, maybe the Bayside police can make use of the tape w/ the perpetrator in action and CASE CLOSED. Then again, maybe this has been shelved due to lack of evidence and will later end up as an episode on TV's Cold Case. That'll be a nail biter & tear jerker all in one. Oh, btw, here's the link where you stated there was a tape showing the person/s destroying the plant beds. Scroll towards the end. http://foxpoint.patch.com/articles/a-tragic-accident-begs-the-question-why Better yet, here are some of your previous posts, just in case they somehow disappear. Bewildered 10:35 pm on Saturday, December 3, 2011 Hey absonotfab, aren't u the lady who poisons village plant beds _______________ Bewildered 10:03 am on Monday, January 23, 2012 Nope, ur on candid camera. _________________________ Bewildered 10:09 am on Monday, January 23, 2012 By the way, after your first attack, a security camera was installed. You look good on tape. _____
David Tatarowicz March 25, 2012 at 08:36 PM
@Ab Fab --- I am glad you highlighted that response by Hanewall in regards to TIF's --- it is the kind of lock step mentality that runs the Village Board, with no one wanting to upset the apple cart. Hanewall forgot the Most Important Option in regards to the decisions in who gets Financial Help from the Taxpayers --- How about NONE of the ABOVE for a change!!! I am not going to take the time to look it up, but I remember when one of the TIFS pet projects screwed up in getting their liquor license --- I guess all that guidance from the BID, TIF and Zoning Dept Dept's isn't all that helpful --- Hanewall said something about it being their fault --- never mind all the talk about how the Village is working hard and spending out money to help businesses succeed here!
Absolutelyfabulous March 25, 2012 at 11:31 PM
Bewildered- BTW, what municipality are you an ELECTED official in? You are baseless in your comments/accusations with absolutely no evidence to back them up. Yet, you keep posting the same thing over & over. Seriously, what municipality would have someone as unstable as you in an elected position and possibly a decision maker? Here's your post stating you are an elected official. Bewildered 4:09 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012 "Sorry Paul, not a MF resident. But I am a long term conservative elected official and wish you the best. Anyone running for public office is a hero in my book " ________________________ Bewildered- Methinks you are Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs and not in a chocolately, sugary, crunchy sort of way.
North Shore Concerned Parent March 26, 2012 at 03:21 AM
Ms. Absolutely fabulous, wondering what your obsession with bewildered is. On this thread, I believe you were the first to attack him?
Absolutelyfabulous March 26, 2012 at 10:36 AM
North Shore Concerned/Bewildered- Are you the same person/blogger? Seems another blogger referenced you both/as the same unless I am somehow mistaken? David Riordan 7:15 pm on Saturday, March 24, 2012 "Dear North Shore Concerned Parent and Bewildered" http://foxpoint.patch.com/articles/fox-point-bayside-school-board-candidate-forum _________ HANEWELL NEEDS TO GO and Zarmi needs to step it up in terms of getting his message out there with a little more detail as well as signs on peoples lawns. It's time for change or at least someone new to give them a chance. There has been no transperancy w/ the current Village Board and the Open Book debacle, along w/ shelling out/gifting hundreds of thousands of dollars to a few select businesses is just the tip of the iceberg for how this entity has acted and will continue to do so in shutting out the residents of Shorewood in the input/decision making process for the community w/ which they live/shop/pay taxes in. BTW.. Once again, A $10,300,000 TIF has been recommended for Oakland Ave in addition to the many others pertaining to Oakland Ave. Hmm, residents shut out again and what does this $10,300,000 encompass? Terms? For whom? Length of payback? What is the physical scope for these new developments?
Bewildered March 26, 2012 at 12:43 PM
Quote about Fab from Patch editor, 1/14 Dear Absolutelyfabulous, While we appreciate user engagement, both positive and negative, we cannot allow offensive language and personal attacks on individuals. I hope that you continue to read and comment on articles, but please do so appropriately. Sincerely, Sarah J. Worthman
Bewildered March 26, 2012 at 05:35 PM
So tell me, who has been reprimanded by Patch for offensive language and personal attacks? Why that would be you, fab. Patch's comments, not mine. Thank goodness I live in WFB and don't have to deal with you. Why are you so unhappy living in Bayside? Pls stay there. As usual, you threaten to track bloggers down and get them kicked off of Patch. How's that working out. And the truth will set you free. Don't worry, I'm done sparring with you until you start attacking myself and others again. But I'm sure I won't have to wait long. Peace out!
Absolutelyfabulous March 26, 2012 at 05:37 PM
Nice job Bewildered. Though you MANIPULATED the date to exclude that this happened 1/14/11..over 1 year ago. Don't worry though. your blogs will soon be deleted by Patch and most likely this most recent post. Are you (Bewildered) & Concerned North Shore Parent the same? Others seem to think so... BTW, what municipality are you an ELECTED OFFICIAL in? How can that be? Unstable, posing false accusations, MANIPULATES INFORMATION to present to the public..the list just keeps getting longer on your many talents..I can only imagine what you do in office. Enjoy!! -------------- ..As the calls for certain ELECTED OFFICIALS to be removed from office continue in this thread, your posts become dirtier & more misconstrued. Are you just a dirty politician Bewildered since you present yourself as an elected official? Did someone put the call into you to start manipulating posts/presenting continued false accusations?
Absolutelyfabulous March 26, 2012 at 05:50 PM
No peace out! You've posted false accusations and left out information w/ regard to an editor on Patch. So, you're an elected official in WFB? I just put 2 & 2 together, though you could be lying. Really, that's interesting. How is it you came to present false accusations of me committing a crime/misdemeanor repeatedly over many different blogs for things that happened in Bayside? How would you have even known what has/is happening in Bayside and by whom if the police didn't. YOU PLAY DIRTY POLITICS...Who put in the call for you to manipulate emails from the Patch editor to me and present false allegations about me committing some sort of crime/misdemeanor all on this thread dealing w/ elections in Shorewood and the call for the removal of a politician in Shorewood?
Absolutelyfabulous March 26, 2012 at 06:56 PM
Jeff Hanewell needs to go and this is the last time I post on this thread. I have a question/s on who controls Patch and what is/isn't allowed to be posted? Bewildered has been allowed to slander me w/ accusations of committing a crime that he/she has/knows taped evidence to exist (no arrests/citations ever issued) and manipulate posts by the editor and Patch refuses to delete them. Yet, when a Columnist writes an article and Bewildered responds w/ this exact comment, it is deleted by Patch. Here's the Bewildered post that was deleted, Bewildered commented on: I'm on Your Team, Shorewood "Jenny, aren't we full of ourselves," Dec 7 http://shorewood.patch.com/articles/team-patch-a-year-in-review _ There weren't that many comments in the thread to begin w/ and I actually followed immediately commenting on how I thought I was the only one bashed by Bewildered. You'll notice that the comment above was deleted by Patch. This is the response from Patch today w/ regard to my request for slanderous/unfounded accusations being removed. From: sarah.worthman@patch.com CC: matthew.schroeder Sent: 3/26/2012 1:06:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time Subj: Re: Comments At this time, we are not going to delete comments. We very, very rarely delete them as we want the site to be an open forum of communication. ___ Though, I do appreciate the quick response, I find it hard to understand Patch's method for choosing which posts they will allow and which they delete.
Absolutelyfabulous March 26, 2012 at 07:58 PM
I can't resist- Bewildered- If Patch deleted the above comment from you then I can only imagine the severity of the comment of mine that was deleted. Now, I was able to pull up the exact comment and thread of yours that Patch deleted and post for all to verify. Please post the comment I posted that necessitated Patch deleting it along w/ the thread. That's the least you could do. Though, you state that you know there to be existence of tapes showing me committing a crime and you haven't posted those either. Just another day in the life of a dirty politician. Though, I would have to say, that of all the municipalities, WFB at least to me, seemed to be the cleanest. Yet, you profess to be a resident and elected official. That's interesting. Hanewell needs to be elected "OUT" of office in Shorewood. It's time for change.
Bewildered March 26, 2012 at 08:23 PM
LOL !!! I actualy deleted my own comment months ago after after realizing it was not very Christian. Kinda blows your attack out of the water. At least Patch has some common sense. Let's be very clear, you started our latest hissyfit by attacking me first, out of the blue, at 11:56 am on Saturday on this thread. Look in the mirror, my dear. It's time for adult swim. Peace out
Bewildered March 26, 2012 at 08:28 PM
And do you really think Patch would delete someon for saying they believe that someone " is full of themselves". Oh the shame for such a comment. Get real!, Again, LOL ,
Absolutelyfabulous March 26, 2012 at 09:19 PM
C Ya later..Time for something that matters. Wrong! As for you being concerned about your comments not being christian enough, then you must not have read this post/others w/ regard to your comments on Patch. Oh, you are so Christian. So, saying someone "is full of themselves" is not Christian in your book and therefore deserves to be deleted and then accusing someone of a crime w/ evidenc and you have none is obviously Christian and therefore doesn't get removed. Dirty elected official. Linda Motley 1:34 pm on Wednesday, March 14, 2012 A note to "Bewildered" - You may think it's OK to try to bully and intimidate people who use their real names on here, especially since you are too much of a coward to post under your own name, but I have news for you: There is no such thing as anonymity on the internet........ You might want to consider that before you start posting BS meant to discredit and intimidate people out of posting. Keith is no coward. You are. Keith has the courage of his convictions, as does everyone else who posts under their own names. You who use fake names are cowards who do not believe in what you say, and clearly do not want to be found out. Guess what? You are found out, with just a few clicks of a mouse. ...Keep that in mind, coward http://foxpoint.patch.com/articles/state-recall-races-set-for-may-8-june-5 ZARMI--GET THOSE SIGNS ON PEOPLES LAWNS and REMOVE HANEWELL FROM OFFICE.
Bewildered March 26, 2012 at 09:47 PM
If you were honest, you would have reported the next post too 235301 8:08 pm on Wednesday, March 14, 2012 @Linda: Recognize that there is a public record of the facts surrounding Keith S's book coop. They are available via search from jsonline at any time. You may perceive the comments regarding Keith S and this public record as bullying, others may see it as a way of shining a light on the credibility of Keith S. Recognize what is in that public record also has the potential to enrage many taxpayers that participate in this forum. I've been outspoken out on this board about remaining anonymous and this is one of the many reasons to do so. Others who have posted on this board that have chosen to use their real names have been searched via CCAP and JSOnline with the results shining some light on the credibility of those posters, rightly or wrongly. I see no upside to using your name on this forum with huge downsides. Keith S chooses to use his real name and as such has to take that downside. It is not cowardice to use a screen name rather than your real name. It is just plain smart. And to threaten to out another poster via tracking them via IP or other means is just as despicable as any bullying. People post here anonymously so that they may express their true views without having to be politically correct. Employers now search on your name when making hiring decisions. Do you really want what you post on here to be used against you in a competitive job hunt?
Christie March 27, 2012 at 08:19 PM
David, you're on the ball, I second your entire comment!
Absolutelyfabulous March 30, 2012 at 05:06 PM
Bewildered/aka Congressman Shelly Runyon - Your incessant postings accussing me for crimes/offenses that I have never been a part of or committed is concerning to say the least. It's as if you've created this situation and can't stop focusing on it as if it has taken over you. You exhibit AUTISTIC tendancies. Are you Autistic by any chance? Either way, until election day, sit back and enjoy The Contender starring Jeff Bridges, Joan Allen & Gary Oldman as congressman Shelly Runyon. You 2 have so much in common. Politics can be such a dirty business. OH, BTW..$500 to anyone who can post the Video that Bewildered has stated exists showing me committing a crime AKA pulling out flowers from beneath the Lions in Bayside as well as poisoning the flowers. Also, you need to come up w/ the police report and citations/fines issued to me for these offenses. Nice try. Politics can be such a dirty game. Please do yourself a favor and a service to others and address your Autistic behaviorial tendancies. Have a lovely weekend or better yet, Absolutelyfabulous!!!!!

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