Democrat Joe Biden went head to head against Republican Paul Ryan tonight in the first and only vice presidential debate of the campaign.
Patch readers from throughout the Milwaukee area exchanged their views and comments during our live blog from the debate. Here's a replay of what they were talking about in real time.
I would have called the debate a tie, with Biden having the slight advantage. I swear, Ryan was floundering a few times.
Politifact Ryan, 2 Mostly False; 1 False; 1 Lie of the Year. Total 4 Lies Biden: 0 False; a few Half-truths (as Ryan also had) http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/oct/11/fact-checking-vice-presidential-debate-between-joe/ FactCheck.org Ryan wrong on more than 6 claims. Biden wrong on 3 statements http://factcheck.org/2012/10/veep-debate-violations/ Paul Ryan: Keeping that lying tradition going since the Republican Convention!
CBS was the only instapoll that showed Biden winning - it is clearly the outlier in the bunch! Perhaps you should worry about paying your debts instead of who won debates - time for Keithy to grow up and take some personal responsibility for his actions in life! Pay Hoffa his fifty ($50) before Hoffa has to call in his debt collection guys from Detroit!
Interesting how the great independent that you claim to be would be following the twitter feeds of such extreme lefty liberals as the ones you posted above! Bren = extreme lefty liberal in denial!
ROMNEY/RYAN/THOMPSON 2012!!!
Should you really be accusing someone else of LYING??? You've proven yourself to be the habitual LIAR around here! Where's Hoffa's fifty ($50)??? And race baiting yet again??? You've also proven yourself to be the biggest racist around here, as if importing a white candidate so that you guys in the Wood wouldn't have to deal with an African American representative in the state Assembly wasn't bad enough!!! Shame on you Keith Schmitz - what would your mother say?!?!
Biden did what Biden does best - make Biden look like an ass! Where's Hoffa's fifty ($50), you "little wuss" that can't seem to man up to the wagers you make?!?! Remember - Detroit is just a phone call away!
Short, accurate, to the point - Hoffa likes it!
What Hoffa finds so funny is how you liberals worship the perjurer-in-chief, Mr. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Clinton, so very much! Did you wish it was you instead of Lewinsky that ended up with Clinton love stains on your clothing?
Keep on drinking the kool-aide instead of thinking for yourself! Proof once again that the Dems are targeting the low-information, non-thinking voter!
People saw the TRUTH! Biden = Buffoon in general!
Just like a blue-fister to erroneously believe that they are in the majority, when in fact, they are clearly in the minority, as will be definitely proven on November 6th! ROMNEY/RYAN/THOMPSON 2012!!!
Classy - I'll bet your family would be so proud to read your responses.
I was catching up on my reading and saw you comment that said "By referring to Ryan as 'Rand,' you're as disrespectful as Biden was tonight - no wonder you were so attracted to Biden's performance in this debate, as you're both disrespectful of the other side and don't take them seriously!" With that statement were you trying to be ironic or are you unaware of your own hypocracy? Simply by reading comments on Patch, JQP has determined that Hoffa is totally dismissive and disrespectful of the other side.
You really have to understand Taoist's and Hoffa's past interactions. Also, Hoffa has a problem with those who actively criticize Bush but then turn around and idolize Clinton and the Kennedy's.
If you read the full past interactions, then you'll see that with serious and respectful liberals, such a Lyle Ruble, Randy 1949, etc., Hoffa is usually very respectful in return and a decent conversation can take place. It's only in response to nonsense, such as calling Paul Ryan 'Rand,' that Hoffa responds in kind.
I was very concerned about the format of the first debate, which placed the moderator far from the action, so to "speak." It was easy for both candidates (mostly Mitt) to steamroll the moderator. Last night's moderator didn't give an inch, I felt. Here's the question. When outright fabrications are being laid down in front of millions of people, what should one do? Obama "lost" the first debate because he was presidential and a gentleman. Personally I think lying is more offensive than interrupting. I would prefer a lie to be interrupted, no matter what side is presenting the falsehood. We the People deserve not to have our time wasted on b.s. And a lot of what Ryan was laying down was b.s., particularly in the areas of the economy and foreign policy. I felt Ryan's bringing up the traffic accident story was a cheap, crass attempt to unsettle an opponent who has experienced tremendous personal loss in this manner.
Anti, the Nazis, really? Ryan set the tone by throwing down b.s. This was a vice presidential debate, not a playground argument. Romney and Ryan have both shown disrespect to the offices they seek, and offended our intelligence, in my view.
JQP notes that you are using the "they did it first" rationale. If Hoffa has a problem with criticism of one politician's actions while another's is idolized, Hoffa will spend eternity responding! JQP thinks that Hoffa's message would be much better received by others if Hoffa's tongue wasn't like a sledge hammer.
Are you sure you were watching the same debate? What did Ryan lie about exactly? Biden was the one who was clearly lying his rear end off! He voted in favor of both wars, and not against them as he claimed last night! And he's continuing to lie about Libya! Biden also lied about how Ryan was being given more time by the moderator than him, when in reality, Biden was given over 2 minutes of additional time over Ryan, not including his laughs, interruptions, talk overs, cackles, etc. Biden also continued to double down on Obama's lies about Romney's tax plan. The moderator was slightly biased in favor of Biden - even the Washington Post admits to this! But continue to live in fantasy land - you always do!
JQP thinks that Hoffa's irony meter needs calibration. Deep down, even Hoffa has to admit that, given Paul Ryan's proven interest in Ayn Rand's works, it was a clever "dis".
Perhaps the two of you should outline exactly where the "so-called 'fact-checkers'" went astray. JQP would be interested to get your take on it and I hazard to guess that other readers would appreciate being enlightened as well. I look forward to your analysis.
I did the same thing... @billmaher Hello 9 1 1? There is an old man beating a child on my TV 11 Oct 12