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Time to Get Serious about Wisconsin’s OWI Laws

Wisconsin has a serious reputation for alcohol abuse and driving under the influence. It is time to take the problem seriously.

In Wisconsin we have earned the reputation for being a culture steeped in alcohol and much of it can be traced back to our Central and Eastern European roots. In any case, we have some of the laxest alcohol statutes to be found in the U.S., including the OWI laws. Since so many people don’t take the responsibility for drinking responsibly and then driving, it’s time to redo the statutes and put some real teeth into them.

In the first place, our OWI consequences are much too lax and fail to give a serious message to violators. Every time a challenge is made to the alcohol culture, whether it’s increasing the state alcohol tax, the drinking age, hours for the sale of alcohol, bar and tavern hours, OWI reform, legal intoxication levels, etc; the alcohol special interests go ballistic. Remember when we almost had our federal highway funds cut off when we resisted to lowering the intoxication level from .10 to .08. Even smoking bans in bars and taverns created such a stir that the Tavern League put up a horrendous fight, since smoking and alcohol consumption are so closely linked and they feared that it would cut directly into their patronage. Therefore, since we will be unable to change the basic alcohol culture, then we are left to only one device; tighten the OWI laws.

When I say tighten, I mean put them where they should have been all along. Here are my suggestions:

First OWI under 0.15 BAC

Conviction:

  • Class A misdemeanor
  • Fine up to $10,000
  • Jail up to 9 months
  • License revocation – one year mandatory
  • Application for Occupational License – 180 days from conviction
  • Mandatory drug and alcohol education course
  • Loss of the ability to purchase a vehicle while under license revocation
  • Loss of the ability to purchase a firearm while under license revocation and loss of a conceal carry permit

First OWI 0.15 and over BAC

  • Class I felony
  • Fine up to $10,000
  • Jail up to 3 1/2 years
  • License revocation – two year mandatory
  • Application for Occupational License – 1 year from conviction
  • Mandatory drug and alcohol education course
  • Loss of the ability to purchase a vehicle while under license revocation
  • Loss of the ability to purchase and posses a firearm
  • Vehicle equipped with IID after reinstatement of license or reinstatement of occupation license

Second OWI

  • Class H felony
  • Fine up to $10,000
  • Jail up to 6 years
  • License revocation – 5 year mandatory
  • Application for Occupational License – 1 year from conviction
  • Mandatory drug and alcohol treatment
  • Loss of the ability to purchase a vehicle while under license revocation
  • Loss of the ability to purchase and posses a firearm
  • Vehicle equipped with IID after reinstatement of license or reinstatement of occupation license

Third OWI and subsequent OWI violations

  • Class E felony
  • Fine up to $50,000
  • Jail up to 15 years
  • License revocation – lifetime mandatory
  • Application for Occupational License – not applicable
  • Mandatory drug and alcohol treatment
  • Loss of the ability to purchase a vehicle
  • Loss of the ability to purchase and posses a firearm

It is not my intent to place any kind of prohibition on the use of alcohol; but, we have to take decisive action against those who drive intoxicated. Making the consequences for OWI more stringent will hopingly impact those planning their next night out and will decide to find alternative means of transportation if they plan on becoming intoxicated.

Greg August 18, 2012 at 06:00 pm
Milwaukee, Wisconsin 2009:
On March 8, 6-day old Ceianna Buchanan died while co-sleeping with her mother on a couch. The mother told police she was drunk the night before. On April 5, 3-month old Kymarius Hunt died while co-sleeping on a couch with his grandmother. She had drunk 8 beers during the day. On April 19, 2-month old Tyler Winston died while co-sharing with his mother. On April 25, 6-week old Demetrius Kimble died while co-sleeping with both parents in one bed. His mother had been drinking before bedtime. On May 17, 2-month old Meekel McCleave died while sharing a bed with his mother early Sunday morning. 3 out of 5, would indicate a potential problem to me. The other two may have also involved alcohol or drugs. I don't know if the parents were tested. Co-sleeping is not the only cause of harm to children, by parents under the influence.
Lyle Ruble August 18, 2012 at 06:05 pm
@Greg...I stand corrected, thank you.
Daniel S. August 18, 2012 at 06:43 pm
You said it Lyle: "I think we have been much too accommodating to the prevalent alcohol culture." Keywords: Alcohol Culture. How do you reverse that? Who built that culture? Maybe we should FINE them?
Jason J August 18, 2012 at 06:51 pm
My one idea on these OWI laws is that any offense over the first time, your car can be seized. Then the courts can decide to junk it, sell it, or return it to the lien holder. No car = no driving. Suspending licenses and revoking them does nothing to deter most people from still driving.
Plus no dealership ever checks to see if the person they are selling a car to, or even allowing to test drive a car has a valid license. I know, I got hit by a revoked driver test driving a new cadillac with the salesman in the car with him..... Would have made a great lawsuit had there been any injuries. The culture fosters this problem, laws are weak, punishments are not severe enough. Time to really focus on the issue from all angles to try to reduce the amount of people who are driving impaired.
Lyle Ruble August 18, 2012 at 07:09 pm
@Daniel S....It has to begin in the family. Alcohol consumption is just like anything else, children learn from their parents and family. It's like the gun issue you and I have debated, good gun ownership and use begins at home. Teaching people how to use alcohol responsibly comes from proper modeling. The place to start is where everything else begins, in the home.
Daniel S. August 18, 2012 at 07:28 pm
What begins in the home all too often turns into rebellion, as the bombardment from outside influence(s) portrays a carefree glorious life of fun, wealth & utopian style living. It's unfortunately True, society, marketing and lack of regulation plays a Huge role in all the evil and ugly that plagues the world. Yes, there are other challenges to be addressed as well, but there is no denying these are big. We allow False (or rare) representation(s) of life to alter the mindset of citizens. The "Joe Camel" issue comes to mind for one.
Daniel S. August 18, 2012 at 07:32 pm
Sounds like there should be punishment handed down to any dealership owner and the salesperson who does not run a DMV report of the license status of those who want to test drive a vehicle. Maybe we need a form similar to the one filled out to purchase a firearm through a licensed dealer for test driving and or purchasing an automobile?
Greg August 18, 2012 at 07:39 pm
Many offenders may have multiple vehicles. I have owned at least 2 vehicles for the past 28 years. They could also purchase through a private sale and even register it under a different name. Borrowing a vehicle is another option.
Seizing a vehicle may be more of an inconvenience than a revocation, but it would be just as easily bypassed. I think an effective punishment would be an absolute sobriety requirement, with daily breathalyzer tests at the local police/sheriff office. Along with other punishments, of course.
Daniel S. August 18, 2012 at 07:50 pm
The question is: Is there any punishment that currently is EnForced that truly makes the vast majority of people not only think twice, but actually deters them from driving? I don't believe there is. There may be a penalty on the books in many states (if not all), but the EnForcement rarely if ever takes place. We as a society overall, believe it is more humane to lock someone in cage for life and provide Free Room & Board and all the other amenities of life off the back of the taxpayer. Our kindness has been proven to be inefficient as a deterrent and has only dragged our society down overall.
kate August 18, 2012 at 07:51 pm
In some ways I agree with the poster. After his 3rd OWI and time spent in jail, my ex-husband, who is so ill that his mother and my son control his finances and have medical POA, received reinstatement of his license from the state. He still drinks, it interacts with his meds and we recently had contact from MPD about an incident where we found him incoherent and in need of hospitalization. Imagine if he had access to a car? He doesn't because our son won't release any money for him to
buy one. He doesn't want to be responsible for his father hurting or killing someone. The state apparently doesn't care. I'm proud of my son because he does.
Jason J August 18, 2012 at 08:01 pm
Very honorable of your son to do that, and look out not only for his father, but for the well-being of others that would be in danger if he did get a vehicle.
Greg August 18, 2012 at 08:03 pm
What would you have the state do?
Johnny Paycheck August 18, 2012 at 08:07 pm
Since when did we adpot the "whoever imprisons the most people wins" mentality? Our goal should be to discourage people from driving drunk, provide safe alternatives, and find treatment for those who drink too much.
Prison is not the end all solution to all of society's problems. If it were we would have the lowest worldwide crime rate, as result of our already having the highest per capita incarceration rate of any industrialized country.
Daniel S. August 18, 2012 at 08:08 pm
Yes indeed, your son is definitely admirable for his strength in doing the right thing here. I hope he's reminded regularly of his great service to society and his family in doing so.
kate August 18, 2012 at 08:28 pm
My ex-husband had ample opportunity to get education/help for his drinking problem. He won't. He's signed himself out of inpatient treatment, attended AA and accepted monitoring only as long as it was a condition of his release and lies, promises, wheedles whatever it takes to get access to cash to buy alcohol. Some will always be resistant to accepting help or admitting that they have a problem. Some can be helped and I would think that one brush with the law for OWI would be enough to motivate them to get help/stop. Harsher penalties are needed for those who refuse to accept responsibility for their actions. Tears don't help, I know because I shed enough of them. Ultimatums don't work, I know because I issued the. Apparently even punishment doesn't work for some and that's when more is needed. I'm proud of my son and my daughter who have both chosen to limit alcohol, work hard, be caring about others and take responsibility. If their father had anything to do with it it was by setting a very bad example. He deserves to be punished.
Daniel S. August 18, 2012 at 08:52 pm
I sympathize with you Kate and everyone that deals with this Huge Societal Issue.
Been on both sides of these troubled waters. I know the heartbreak, I've experienced the destruction first hand, many times. I am one of the Lucky Ones; I escaped alive, with mind still intact and injuring no-one physically. It's near impossible to not affect others psychologically, even if only resulting in hurt emotions; but it likely goes deeper. This may also be where deeper understanding needs searching, when it comes to those who abuse substances. Why are they doing it? Honesty to SELF, the TRUE desire to have a Happy Life and the Realization that All WE Have is NOW, might help some to discover that which will Aid in their recovery and change of life. The hardest part is dealing with all the pain, sadness, shame, anger, guilt and possibly Hate we have been harboring; for some it may be just the lack of compassion, love, respect when it was needed, wanted and or expected. There is Always Hope, as long as we are still breathing, but breathing is not the same as living. And Living inside a bottle of any kind, alcohol, scripts, or illegal drugs is not the same as Being ALIVE.
vocal local 1 August 18, 2012 at 11:00 pm
I think most of you are off the wall. Incarceration and tagging a person with a felony isn't working. Try thinking out of the box. Count One, assessment, education, one year license revocation and immediately allow them an occupational with a monitor for work only. Take the car they are driving away. I don't care if it's theirs or dads or the neighbors give it to the state and let the state sell the cars and use the money for roads. Take the license, the ability to register, buy and own away for five years on any futures and no occupationals. We have enough criminals and shouldn't be classifying drunks as felons. One Major contributing factor here in WI is lack of public transportation. I weigh 130 lbs. How many Old Fashions can I drink before I'd be considered drunk? I don't see the logic of taking away gun ownership rights. Current conceal carry allows one to enter a bar that is not posted with a gun. GUNS AND ALCOHOL? What were the legislatures and governor drinking when they created this law?
Mike in OC August 19, 2012 at 03:34 am
why doesnt anyone ever mention imposing fines on the businesses that supply alcohol? obviously its the person who consumed too much who is at fault... but it's also the bartender who over served the person who got behind the wheel... as well as the fact that there is too few taxis in the state.
Mardy Meacham August 19, 2012 at 04:55 am
To Neil A and all of the others that think this is a BIG JOKE. Well it is not and you are invited to my house to view my son who since 1983 when he was in a vehicle that was hit by a drunk driver. He is still unable to see, eat, talk, walk or do anything else. Instead of a fine, jail or whatever, you might just want to come to help with his cares,, etc. and you mihgt want to pick up the tab that has reached 4-5 million dollars...I believe I have lost count after all of this time. As a past president of MADD SE Wisconsin I had the opportunty to meet some of the worst people in the world such as those of you who simply don't give a dam about your fellow human beings and only about yourself. I wish you luck on your drunken escapades.
Daniel S. August 19, 2012 at 07:51 am
Are you suggesting that bars be required to administer a breathalyzer after each drink a person has? What if they aren't driving, should they be subjected to the same rules? If not, then they'll just lie and say they are not driving. Or should those who are not driving be subject to maintaining a blood alcohol level under .08? Doesn't all this sound like a revival of prohibition in a watered down way?
Mike Knight August 20, 2012 at 01:59 am
Since I don't partake of the vile fermented liquids I say throw the book at the drunks.
First Offense: 1 year in jail mandatory, While in jail get psychiatric help for their need to get tanked up. Driver's license revoked for 3 years. Second Offense: 5 years in jail mandatory. While in jail intensive psychiatric re-programming to make them hate alcohol. Driver's license revoked for life. They can hitch a ride or ride a bicycle. Third Offense: 25 years in prison. Fourth Offense: Life in prison. These wretched tasting fermented grains, and fruits are not necessary. Just eat the grains, and fruits. Stop pretending you're cool or tanking up to improve your pathetic personality.
Daniel S. August 20, 2012 at 03:31 am
So let's get this straight; you suggest a YEAR incarceration for driving while under the influence 1st offense? That is for someone not involved in an accident, just over the limit while driving? Better start building more prisons and raise taxes to cover all this expense.
Andrew McKee August 20, 2012 at 03:31 am
It is steeped in the culture of Wisconsin. 3.5 years ago I was at a dinner with some people while I was in Michigan. There were 6 of us from across the country. I ordered a beer with my dinner. No big deal right? They all looked at me in shock. 3 of them made comments about the time of day it was. I wasn't driving, didn't order hard alcohol...just a single beer with my wings. The guy from NY stated: "He's from Wisconsin, my wife is from there, beer is mother's milk to them". I hadn't realized how different it can be elsewhere for some.
It wasn't long after that that I committed to a healthy lifestyle. I quit smoking cigarettes, I quit drinking, and I stopped eating terrible food. I also got a gym membership. I have watched 5 friends get OWI's,despite my repeated offers none called for a ride. It is a problem. It is acceptable in our culture to have an OWI, whereas in other states it can make you a social pariah. It is almost a prideful slant. The other problem is there is next to zero useful transportation. The last time I called for a cab I waited an hour, paid 40 dollars for a 15 minute ride,and this was on a Thursday. Cab companies would be a very VERY welcomed business in this state, and surrounding area. There simply aren't enough of them. Why not offer some low interest (SBA style, or city backed) business loans to privately create a better transportation system. Less drunks driving, and more jobs for people. Win-win to me.
Daniel S. August 20, 2012 at 03:39 am
It's not just WI culture, it's a way of life that was heavily marketed for many decades, like cigarettes; but cigarette marketing has been stopped in some forms and heavily curtailed in other aspects, alcohol has barely been touched. I would be interested in knowing the approximate age group(s) of the people in shock, it also tells part of the story.
Michael McClusky August 20, 2012 at 03:45 pm
Neil A., I would add that the defendant would no longer be allowed to be a passenger in a motorized vehicle either. God knows he would be a bad influence on the driver!
Mike Knight August 20, 2012 at 03:53 pm
Everyone needs to have designated sober drivers when they go out to their beer bars. If the police really wanted to arrest half the populace all they'd have to do is wait outside taverns, and pull everyone over the minute they drive away.
Daniel S. August 20, 2012 at 04:14 pm
@ Mike Knight " If the police really wanted to arrest half the populace all they'd have to do is wait outside taverns, and pull everyone over the minute they drive away."
So why don't they do this? Random police parking lot blockades. Rather than arrest them, they fine them say $100 for every .01 over the limit of .08. Take away their keys and call a cab or provide a bus ride home (at their own expense). To get their keys back, they must go to the police department no sooner than 12 hours (sobering up time). Cars left at the place of infraction would be booted, so they could not be removed from the establishment with a second set of keys. There of course would be stiffer penalties for repeat offenders and those with unusually high BAC levels. If we as a nation wanted to truly put the brakes on runaway alcohol and drug problems, it could be done. How far do we want to go into invasion of freedom and rights?
Vickie Boneck August 20, 2012 at 07:55 pm
Wisconsin residents convicted of OWI are required to obtain an assessment as part of the process to regain their driver's license. IMPACT, a non-profit organization that has been helping people with alcohol and drug issues for over 50 years, is the largest provider of assessment and referral services in the state. Of the approximately 4,000 Milwaukee County residents that IMPACT assesses each year for an OWI, about half are referred to an education program and the other half are referred to a treatment program based on their assessment findings.
Milwaukee OWI clients have one of the lowest re-offense rates in all Wisconsin counties, still, IMPACT contends that reducing recidivism and promoting designated drivers addresses only part of a broader issue. The goal of IMPACT’s *stop drinking [SO MUCH] milwaukee* campaign is to help people connect the dots between their risky drinking behaviors and any problems they're having in life. Risky drinkers are more likely to land in the hospital, encounter financial and legal problems, and experience personal crises such as unemployment or divorce. Many people drink beyond what is safe without even realizing it. We want them to get educated about risky drinking limits; to be able to identify a problem before it reaches a crisis; and to know that IMPACT is a reliable resource for information and assistance. To learn more, go to http://www.impactinc.org/impact-awareness/stop-drinking-so-much-mke/
Neil A Rubble August 21, 2012 at 04:48 pm
I don't think this is a big joke....just Lyle's solution to it.
Neil A Rubble August 21, 2012 at 04:51 pm
Hey Mike, some great logic.

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