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An Open Letter On the Proposed Garden Room's Frederick Ave. Parking Lot

While strong opposition to the proposal has been vocal and visible, there is another side.

Dear friends and fellow Shorewoodians,

When I read that 60 people showed up to oppose Deborah Kern’s (Owner of the Garden Room/Anaba Tea Room), proposal to put a parking lot in the place of a house she purchased behind her store, I realized that those that often support ideas don’t speak out like those who oppose them. I want to offer some thoughts from another side.

Much has been made of a parking lot “increasing crime” – for some parking lots in more remote places that may be true. At the same time, the residents on that block have a giant parking lot across the street and according to Shorewood police, no incidents of crime have been reported there. Additionally, the proposed lot (as well as all the houses on the block) could hardly be closer to the police station that is open 24 hours a day. The assertion makes no sense to me.

Secondly, if a parking lot causes property values to drop, then the houses on Frederick would not be worth much, given the lot across the street — but I’m going to guess your taxes are about the same as mine.

I would encourage us to look at the upside of The Garden Room’s proposal:

  1. I can hardly find a place to park on Capitol on that block or the next one to the east. This lot, behind the store will open spaces on the street.
  2. Deborah Kern has proposed an environmentally responsible lot including a rain garden. More expensive to do, but much in keeping with our community’s environmental philosophy.
  3. Ms. Kern has paid nearly a quarter of a million dollars in property taxes to the village in the last 11 years. With her renovations, she has increased the building’s value by 125%. We could lose all of that revenue if she has to relocate the store.
  4. She employees 25 people and has personally contributed nearly $20,000 to schools, the Criterium, the SEED Foundation and the Shorewood Men’s Club since opening the store.
  5. Not all of the Garden Room or Anaba Tea Room’s customers come from Shorewood — but all of the 36,250 people that come in are bringing revenue to our village.

I understand it is difficult to lose a good Shorewood house — I get that. I also know we live in a different world economically and we can’t afford to lose good local businesses or the revenue they bring to our village. We risk losing all of this. I have spoken with Deborah and if her business continues to suffer (in an already horrendous economy) because of parking, we stand to lose the Garden Room and Anaba in Shorewood. We don’t need more empty storefronts.

When Scott Walker slashed the rights of teachers, unions, women and schools, many of us rightfully picked up our clipboards and hit the political trail. But I think we’ve taken our clipboards and our anger a little too far here. This story is about a philanthropic woman with a good local business that feeds our community -- which we stand to lose.

If you tend to agree, consider coming to the meeting of the Village Board on November 19 at 7:30 p.m. or calling a board member to let them know there IS another viewpoint. Thanks.

Absolutelyfabulous October 28, 2012 at 04:04 am
Can't wait to see how this turns out and what legal action could potentially be initiated.
Though, I would have to say that having car doors opening/closing/slamming shut right outside ones window w/ people who have no connection/empathy for the residents is a bit different than what's happening across the street and I don't believe the library is open late into the evening. Is Anaba open late/later into the evening? What about the noise of snowplows coming through from outisde ones window in the early morning hours or throughout the night/s during a heavy snowstorm. Ms. McCanse, is your bedroom window potentially outside a very busy parking lot? Though, as the article states, Ms. Kern has sunk quite a bit of $$ into this property. I remember when it was a car repair garage and what a grease pit and eyesore it was. If Ms Kern did pick up and relocate, would she be able to recoup her costs? City Market on the next block doesn't have any off street parking or the ability for customers to utilize a parking lot close like Anaba's customers do for the library and they do quite the business or did when I stopped in a few times. Then again, Dan Katz has already been granted permission for his commercial property next door to tear down a house and create a parking lot which he did and which benefits him financially. Good luck.
North Shore Newbie October 28, 2012 at 01:53 pm
There's one glaring omission in this entire debate: what actual PROOF is there that the decrease in business at Anaba is due to parking? How does she know that it's not because, in this economy, people simply don't have the expendable income to shop at her higher-end store? Has she done any market research studies? Presumably there was a time when she did really well (well enough to expand). I can't imagine the parking situation was any better back then. The idea of tearing down a perfectly good house to put up a parking lot without difinitive proof that lack of parking is the problem is specious. This whole thing just doesn't pass the smell test with me.
Sunrocket October 28, 2012 at 02:00 pm
As you stated in your letter - there is a huge parking lot right across the street. Let them use that. As I have stated before, I am up and down Capitol drive at all hours of the day and there are always parking spots available. I have lived in Shorewood for more than 20 years and have paid over $135,000 in taxes, doesn't sound quite as good when you say quarter of a million though. She has 25 employees? What are they all doing? The few times I have been in there I have been totally ignored. Good for Ms Kern for all of her contributions, I am sure most other Shorewood businesses have done the same so I don't think anything she has done is quite as laudable as you make it seem. Ms Kern has also been shifty in some of her practices, especially when she initially opened the Garden Room. Those in the horticulture business know all about it. Also your figures of 36,000 + that come to the garden room. In 10 years that averages 9 a day. I sincerely hope the village votes this down.
Alol October 28, 2012 at 03:59 pm
Isn't there already a parking lot right next to the house she wants to tear down? Does Anaba Tea Room really need that many more parking spaces?
On the other side of the argument, the house she wants to tear down is kind of homely-looking with it's white aluminum siding and blocky hedges. I can also see how a rain garden would be more environmentally beneficial than another dark-shingled roof. Hopefully she'll opt for something other than black asphalt (concrete? bricks?) for the parking lot if she gets her way. Shorewood is being covered in asphalt and it's horrible and NOT more cost-effective in the long run.
Cricket October 28, 2012 at 06:17 pm
Perhaps it is not the most attractive home on the block but I am sure it could be well loved by a family.
I find it hard to believe her business is suffering due to lack of parking. If her business is so unique people will get there if they want to. There is seriously no lack of parking there at all. If a family moved in there with taxes around 5 - 6 thousand a year that would bring in 60,000 in ten years as well as possible children in the school system and potential customers to other shops. I guess Ms kerns can do whatever she wants to though and it sounds like she will whether we like it or not but let's try to keep the facts in perspective. I don't think her business alone is what is keeping Shorewood alive.
India McCanse October 28, 2012 at 07:53 pm
Sunrocket - thanks for your comments. I appreciate your point of view. I might suggest that you talk with Deborah directly about your concerns of the staff and her "shifty practices."
Nick Poulos October 28, 2012 at 10:56 pm
@India; well said. Clearly it has come for people to gather once again; to allow this to move forward; and for us all to be integral to the success of all.
N. Peske October 29, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Yes, but it is for the residents of the Katz apartment building. Next to that is the dry cleaner's parking lot. Across the street, on Frederick, is the municipal lot.
Jamie Harris October 29, 2012 at 03:11 pm
No one wants to see the Garden Room or any of our Village businesses not succeed, but really this is a case of a lack of imagination at finding creative alternatives to parking challenges that don't require razing perfectly intact prewar homes that can serve as affordable housing for a family to help bring up school district enrollments (several were offered at the plan commission meeting: move parking to west side of Frederick, diagonal parking in the municipal lot, handicap spot in front of shop). I think Trustee Mike Maher said it best when he explained some of the history here, that the Village has long discussed these zoning issues, and that the consensus has been that the guiding principle should be to keep the businesses facing the main corridors and not have them intrude into the neighborhoods, whether that is Edgewood or Frederick or Maryland, or Downer (should every business without dedicated parking petition for residential lot parking solution?). The other issue that has been overlooked is that the parking challenge is parking that is in the immediate vicinity (less than 1/2 block). The reality is that there is ALWAYS parking within 1-2 blocks when you go into the residential areas. Mequon shoppers that come to Shorewood may not get that, but that's the beauty of our walkable village, and the job of the Garden Room to educate its customers (if the Third Ward & Brady St that have LESS parking, can succeed, I am sure The Garden Room can too.)
CowDung October 29, 2012 at 03:37 pm
I personally avoid going to places in the Third Ward and Brady Street (and many other parts of the East side) because it is such a pain to find parking. Not sure how some of those places can stay in business, but it likely has to do with population densities and being on bus routes...
Absolutelyfabulous October 29, 2012 at 04:40 pm
Then why did they grant Dan Katz permission to tear down a house and create a surface parking lot on the same block and practically right next to the house that Anaba is looking to tear down? Did the clouds suddenly part and the sun shone through after that decision?
Jamie Harris October 29, 2012 at 04:43 pm
@absolutelyfabulous, yes I do think the Katz decision was an aberration. It's worth noting that the plan commission voted 6-1 against the Katz proposal, and the board vote was mixed (4-2). Theories abound as to why the board chose not to follow the plan commission recommendation (resident parking has a higher priority, Village failed to notify one half of the block who might have opposed it, etc.), but I think that was a mistake too, and it set a bad precedent we're dealing with now. In addition, the Village has since instituted numerous parking initiatives to help with these challenges (2 hr restriction in open up spots, public parking on Oakland, requirements that new buildings have underground parking, etc.).
Cricket October 29, 2012 at 05:03 pm
If I really want to go to a shop be it Brady, Third Ward or even over on Oakland - I will park and walk. If I am too much of a hurry to deal with parking - I don't go. Unless someone is handicap and that is a great solution to dedicate a spot for that - otherwise walk! It's good for you! If you are with your elderly mom or aunt of cousin Sue on crutches, drop her off at the door and go park the car - problem solved.
Greg October 29, 2012 at 05:06 pm
"When Scott Walker slashed the rights of teachers, unions, women and schools, many of us rightfully picked up our clipboards and hit the political trail."
You mean Governor Walker and the majority of Wisconsin voters. I guess you still don't understand how you picking up your clipboards was an attack on the good people of Wisconsin by special interest unions. You lost, get over it!
CowDung October 29, 2012 at 05:11 pm
Making comments like that doesn't exactly go very far to winning people over to her side as it tends to cause readers to treat everything else that she said as propaganda...
Greg October 29, 2012 at 05:16 pm
I was on her side, until she went there. Now I just wonder why the hippies don't just ride their bikes (or Segways) to go and suck tea.
Sunrocket October 29, 2012 at 05:53 pm
I admit when I saw that sentence I lost any credibility for what she was saying - it erased everything she said up to that point. I think if some of these libs don't have a cause or a reason to have a clipboard in their hands they might not know what to do with themselves. Try to relax and let the woman solve her own problems - unless you have some unspecified interest in the business.
Bob McBride October 29, 2012 at 05:55 pm
It's an attempt to find commonality with the opponents of the demolition while taking the anti-progressive position of supporting a business interest over that of its residential neighbors. If you really want to see how much of a squirm factor this issue is creating, take a look at Nick's post supporting the author. Talk about saying nothing in the hopes of offending no one....
Cate October 29, 2012 at 06:27 pm
I believe the business owner sees a need for parking. If she didn't, why spend all this money for a new lot? The community needs to place some value on its local businesses, it's not a gated community. If Garden Room and Anaba leave, I believe it would be hard for a new business to entertain taking over that space as there would already be a record of push back regarding parking. In short, it seems a small price to put a parking lot next to a parking lot, across from a parking lot, to keep what most view as a Shorewood business gem.
Sunrocket October 29, 2012 at 09:35 pm
Ugh - Hopefully they will leave their drums and vuvuzelas at home.
Absolutelyfabulous October 30, 2012 at 06:15 am
Actually, I have never been in Anaba, but I get the impression that they have put a lot of $ into this property. Who knows if the investments made would carry over to any new business on a 1 for 1 basis or someone could come into the space and get a very good deal. Numerous businesses that line Oakland & Capitol that do not offer parking other than what is available on the street. Those storefronts just across Maryland on Capitol Dr. that include City Market have no problem filling space when one becomes vacant and some seem to have more turnover than others. You are on the main artery, across from 2 schools and a church, next to a funeral home-steady traffic in it's own right, as well as having a dry cleaner as your next door neighbor and all the traffic that the library in itself generates.
Anaba's space is very valuable and more so since they have probably sunk a ton of $ into it. I'm sure a number of businesses would find that space very attractive. You can sell the business/space for more $ w/ parking and someone can potentially use it as a bargaining tool if there is a need to sell the space sooner due to moving to another location, Additionally, having a parking lot in the rear could facilitate deliveries/possibly expansion (including, but not limited to a patio) and who's to say that the owner could not benefit from potentially renting out spaces overnight to Katz residents or anyone else looking for parking spaces, if that was feasible.
CowDung October 30, 2012 at 06:24 pm
Nick:
It doesn't seem that you've been listening authentically or have done enough thinking about this issue. Razing the house to build a parking lot does not seem to be how we help co-create a sustainable future for our childrens' children...
Cricket October 30, 2012 at 08:01 pm
Cow - they just want an excuse to gather, bang their drums and sing kumbaya.
Absolutelyfabulous October 30, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Is the current assessment of $934,000 accurate for Anaba's location? Obviously between paying $175,000 in 2000 and now, there have been dramatic improvements. Though, you have to sell a hell of a lot of tea to pay taxes alone.
The building is roughly 5,100 sq ft and across the street, also on Capitol, you have the strip center containing City Market along w/ 3 other businesses (the pizza place also has a kitchen) totalling 8,700 sq ft and that property is assessed at $1,234,000.00, Basically, Anaba is being assessed @ ~$187.00 per sq foot and the City Market building is being assessed @ ~$141.00 per sq foot. I believe that City Market has sunk tons of $$$ into that space as well in addition to receiving grant $$ for the patio that greatly contributes to the income stream for that business alone. Also, that building does have @4/5 parking spaces in the rear off the alley. Why, what seems to be such a discrepency in assessments per sq ft between the 2 properties? Especially since Anaba is walled in on both sides by adjoining businesses whereas City Market building has 2 sides that are glass and double the exposure on 2 main arteries ie Capitol/Maryland along w/ very spacious outdoor seating in addition to the other businesses houses in that building?
Absolutelyfabulous October 30, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Let's add that Sendik's on Oakland w/ 5,500 sq ft and assessed @ $854,000 ($155.00 per sq foot) has how many spaces of parking to offer their customers and now the parking will be enclosed/protected from the elements? Oh, and they were also the recipients of $200,000 in grant monies (ie free & clear) from the village.
Why is Anaba's assessment so high compared to other properties?
Cricket October 30, 2012 at 11:37 pm
At least at City Market and Sendiks I am greeted courteously when I spend my money there as opposed to the few times I have been at GR I have been totally ignored by the young gal with red hair that man's the front area - very very unfriendly. You could have a stroke in the place and they wouldn't notice.
I think GR offers a product that Shorewood would like - I have no problem with that, their gifts are cute, some are in a reasonable price range while most are not. I can brew just as good a cup of tea at home and have just as good a meal but admittedly do not care for the cuisine at Anaba. I'd rather dine at CM, where while I am greeted my order may not always come as requested. I at least feel at home and wanted there which I can honestly say that I do not at GM. I am a life long North Shore resident and have shopped and dealt with some of the snootiest but this place has a negative vibe to it - starting with the gal up front. You only get one chance to make a first impression.
Absolutelyfabulous October 31, 2012 at 11:10 am
Ok, this is for inquiring minds...All I can say is..stop the insanity!!
The Garden Room should have access to all the legal firepower available since the owner's father founded Generac ie "Generac Power Systems, one of the world's largest independent manufacturers of complete engine-driven generator systems. " It will be interesting to see what, if any, of the plan commission members/trustees get weak kneed at the potential thought of doing business w/ someone who seemingly has so many resources/connections/influence. Bring it on..This could get interesting or maybe not
N. Peske October 31, 2012 at 12:09 pm
I think it's wildly inappropriate to divert the discussion into the topic of Anaba's owner's personal wealth. At the public meeting, it was clear that people on both sides of the topic, or in the middle, wanted to conduct a civil conversation--even if some people's feelings had been hurt by the owner's way of going about purchasing the property and asking for the rezoning. It would be nice if anonymous posters would conduct civil conversations in these forums without resorting to gleeful lipsmacking over possible dramas.
Once again, I appreciate all my fellow Shorewoodians who have approached this topic in a thoughtful, respectful way reflective of our values here--and demonstrating to our kids what collaborative problem solving involves.
Absolutelyfabulous October 31, 2012 at 08:42 pm
We'll see. Obviously, you seem to forget how Dan Katz got approval for his tearing down of an adjacent house to create a parking lot. You seem to forget about the millions and millions bestowed upon Barry Mandel w/ the public completely shut out of the entire process oh and Trustee Hanewall's architectural firm that he is employed at handling the design of the $32,000,000 development.
Money does talk along w/ the opportunities/power that come with it. So, even though it was more along the lines of the National Inquirer to bring into the mix the Generac connection, is a pretty powerful connection. So, in the world you live in maybe everyone is equal and has an equal say/chance at things. Though, that's not reality. Just look at some of the kids who get busted for drugs/stealing/DUI's in the northshore and who's parents come forward with their lawyers to get them off/records cleared so they don't have a blemished record when applying to college/jobs. Money talks and I'm just interested if it will in this instance as well. I previously thought Dan Katz had the advantage in his situation because of his "resources/access to legal counsel.though he is an attorney himself" Now, w/ this bit of info and since the decision makers already opened the door/set some sort of precedent w/ tearing down another house, Anaba doesn't have to worry about having the $ to pursue a legal battle, if they choose and there is merit, which can be a deterrant for many others w/out resources.
Anjou E November 8, 2012 at 03:33 am
My 84 year old handicapped Mom manages to park in the village lot and make it safely to and from her tea dates all by herself. How lazy and helpless are people getting?Maybe they can skip a few minutes on the treadmill at the gym when they drive there.

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